1. So I looked up the three acts SCAD booked for that graduation concert. It'll be fun if you go, regardless of what band is playing, but I will say that this made my decision to come to town for Beach Bum instead a whole lot easier.
2. Maybe you've already seen this, but Rick, you could play a zombie on AMC.
3. Spring sports ended for BC with a quarterfinal loss to Calhoun in soccer. To weigh in on this 5A/2A debate, I'll just say I place a big emphasis on competing against Savannah public schools and believe that always played a big part in BC being “the place to be.”
In order to make deep playoff runs and win state titles, you need a combination of great talent and luck, no matter the classification. Beating GAC or Blessed Trinity in AA/A soccer is just as difficult as beating Collins Hill or Houston County in 5A. In football, a Charlton County or Buford may be as hard to beat as Camden County or Stephenson.
I just feel that BC can be competitive to dominant across the board in a Savannah public school region, which makes the school attractive to potential students, and that it's kind of a crapshoot when you make the playoffs in every sport and every classification.
4. Ozzie's at it again: Watch that movie matador and you see big nuts man. Matador 9:09 PM May 3rd via txt.
This never gets old.
5. I haven't been too into the whole "dude with an acoustic guitar" thing lately, but this Joe Pug guy is doing something right.
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We can also be competitive/dominant in AA sports, as we've shown.
There will be different opinions about playing SAV public schools and what it means, but we both know that this move wouldn't be occurring if we were doing well in AA football. In that sense, it's a retreat. So you and I disagree that it's the right move, but we should agree that it's for the wrong reason.
Joe Pug is good stuff. I like Hymn 101. Dare I say Dylan-esque?
I like the comparison someone made to Stanford always winning the Directors' Cup. Who thinks Stanford is dominant in college athletics? It's good to win in every sport, but football is king, followed by basketball and then baseball in a distant third.
How's it for the wrong reason? Moving to AAAAA gives us a better chance to get more/better potential athletes which should lead to better teams.
"We can also be competitive/dominant in AA sports, as we've shown."
That's what I was trying to say -- that I don't see a significant difference in competition, so I'd rather go ahead and play the Savannah schools.
I guess you can call it a retreat or you can make Rick's argument. It seems to me that which one people choose probably has a lot to with which class they'd rather be in.
One more thing I'd like to discuss is the excitement/success our basketball team had this year. Region championship. State playoff win. Overall great year.
But the reason for the excitement around/success of this team was their outstanding players. It had nothing to do with being in AA. If they would have been in AAAAA, they might not have won the region but they would have made the playoffs. This year's team had two marquee victories: the MCA game at BC and the home playoff win. Being in AAAAA would have allowed us many more chances at marquee victories. A win over Groves or Johnson would have been undoubtedly a bigger accomplishment than beating MCA. Further, wins over Beach and SHS would have brought even more excitement than any region title.
As for Joe Pug, the first time I heard that first EP of his I thought he was trying way too hard to ape Dylan.
But then I realized he did it so well that I didn't really care, and I think the sound on his new album is a welcome move away from that.
Either way, the guy's good.
"...the excitement/success our basketball team had this year..."
This is a good example of what I was trying to get across earlier. The basketball team was good because it was really talented and a new coach breathed some life into the program, not because it was in Region 2-AA.
And even then, the bracket forced them to play Thomasville in the second round. Maybe it would've been different in 5A, maybe not.
My point is that I think it's pointless to try to position yourself for state-level success when so much is out of your control. I think which region you're in is much more important.
The ACTUAL reason for the change is a retreat to an easier football region. Anyone disagree?
Slic -
Your view is the most honest. Fuck it, let's play with the big boys. We can disagree but I get it and respect it.
Don -
If we had a good football program these past few years (and an actual football coach) and were doing well in the state, nobody would be calling for the move. Fact. The move is a result of our poor results.
Which games had a bigger crowd/more news coverage? When we have beaten SAV public schools in the past or the MCA game? The answer is obvious.
I don't think we're missing out on athletes because we aren't in AAAAA.
Mouse -
Pointless to be properly classified? I think the dynasties of every class would disagree with you.
I think there is definitely a difference in competition in football. Maybe not at the very, very top, but come on. We're talking AA and AAAAA.
I thought we were talking about the very, very top.
"Pointless" was the wrong word, but my main point is that I think region placement is more important than classification.
I guess i was basically talking about playoff teams. tougher competition in AAAAA than AA
For BC, you're right. Easier football region at all cost.
thanks. see, he gets it.
Another thought on BC basketball 2009-2010. With the exception of MCA, BC's entire region this year was garbage. No doubt that racking up easy wins helped bring excitement to a program that has been in dire need of such, but how satisfying was it to win all those games comfortably by double digits without even playing a good game in many cases? Every game would have been competitive and thus more exciting IMO if we would have been in AAAAA. And I realize that this year's team was outstanding, and they were just better more than 10 points better than everyone except MCA. However, if this wasn't the worse year in region 2AA, then every BC team from Pierce's senior year till this year would have been either first or second in such a region. That's not ideal for me.
As for Rick's point, there's a lot of that in me. I still get off to the thought of being in Ramsey and telling douches wearing their GISA championship shirts that my high school a hundred more people and played in AAAAA. I don't mind having my ass beaten if the team I'm on doesn't play well; it builds character. It's a lot better than playing like shit and still winning by 30 which is the case with many BC basketball games this year. To be fair, it was the case in many baseball and football games in region 3AAAAA but in each sport there was also 4 or 5 teams who were good, not just 1. Region 2AA, in terms of basketball, is not competitive.
One last thing: the great attendance at BC basketball games is due in large part to Snuffy, drug tests, and a better job by the BCAA/ and coaches of getting students and fans alike excited for games. The current BC sports culture is better than it was in 2002/2003. If you take our 2003 basketball against SHS or our region playoff game and the culture is what it is today, then we pack the gym just as much as they did this year for the MCA.
"However, if this wasn't the worse year in region 2AA"
Worst, not worse.
Donnie take this as a response to your post on BMBS as well:
We've pretty much said our respective pieces.
I just wish that if we were moving up to AAAAA, it wasn't because we were throwing in the towel on our football. AA offers us legitimate shots at a state championship where AAAAA really doesn't. And from the press I've seen our basketball team garner (which is more press than the b-ball team has gotten in my recent memory in AAAAA) I think we can still be recognized as a great sports program/attract the best athletes in the region. And that's all I've got to say about that.
Did I miss something or did someone at BC come right out and state that the reason we are moving to AAAAA is because the football team couldn't cut it in AA? Anyone? I mean obviously we all have opinions on the reason why BC is making the move now, but until someone that is actually in the know comes out and lays it all for us, I think the argument is pointless.
I think arguments based on obvious inferences are a little above being called "pointless"
I agree with PMac. I never would have inferred that the reason for the move was 'to throw in the towel'. I think you are making the wrong (pointless?) assumption. There are ample reasons to make the move (play the 'best', closer competition, local media buzz, etc.)
That being said, who cares what the reason for the move is? In five years, when attendance at the school has increased and B.C. has become relevant once again in SAVANNAH sports no one will remember why the decision was made.
(I'd go as far to say that a lot of people will forget that B.C. was never NOT in 5 AAAAA- that is of course if that stop with all of the flip-flopping and just stay in the same region)
I also think that the move to 5 AAAAA is the right move and that Barstool is fighting a battle that he doesn't even whole-heartedly agree with.
It matters to me because it points out fundamental problems in the decision making process. But you're right in that what's done is done and we're obviously not going to see eye to eye on that.
If we had had success in the playoffs in football this year or the previous few and the program was looking good, we'd be staying in AA. Does anyone disagree? What does that tell you?
I don't care the reason why we move back.
Despite what you say, I also don't think that football success is the only reason the decision was made. Maybe a catalyst for making the decision but certainly not the only reason.
To answer your question, I do disagree. I think if B.C. was competing at the state level, it would still be a good move to go back to AAAAA.
This debate has gone on too long. I think it's fun to talk about and I think its meaningful and I don't have anything else to do but if you wanna agree to disagree, I'm cool w/ that...
Agreed. This whole debate has given me a good distraction during exams.
My question was "would we be moving back" not "would it still be a good move".
i totally just realized you were dissing galactic and g love. suck it mouse!
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